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Last year, towards the end of September, Memph started looking almost neurological. He was leaning left with his hind end, like it was no longer attached to his body. While just standing he would lean almost to the point of falling over, and then would quickly stand back up. At the walk he would twist his left hind inward.
I saw him about a month after he started doing this, and while it still looked like maybe something neuro, we also threw around the possibility of a pinched nerve or something similar in his hind end/spine.
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The PA vet--the most useless person on the planet, but unfortunately literally the only one in the area--subscribed ten days of Doxy for Lyme. Because that's just what she does for everything. Which, side note, killed my Red horse and I switched to another vet that doesn't do horses anymore. This woman is the most colossal "old school" pain in the ass and she wants no part of your opinion. So take that into consideration. Sarah is in a tough spot with bouncing ideas off of her vet because the vet won't hear them.
They tried banamine and a steroid. They also discussed treating for EPM, but then Memphis just spontaneously started getting better. I suggested chiro thinking along the lines of something out of whack, but the chiro--who I like a whole lot--didn't find anything alarming.
The vet's summation was that he was just an old horse. Which at the time he was only eighteen. Senior I guess, but hardly some geriatric that was barely getting by with a plethora of other old man symptoms.
The actual hind end twisting, leaning mess only lasted a few weeks, but it seemed to take months for him to regain full strength. For a few months his tail was cocked to the left when moving faster than a walk. Then that seemed to resolve.
A year later, they're at a new barn. A couple weeks ago the whole thing started back up again. He's been normal both times otherwise. No temp, normal heart and respiratory rate.
SO.
The fact that's it came back around the same time as last year is weird. The fact that is just went away basically on its own is weird. The fact that he seems like a normal horse in every other way than his hind end trying to fall off his body is weird. Has anyone seen or experienced something similar? Any thoughts on what it might be? We'll take any and all guesses at this point!



Ugh, that is scary. My 18 year old has neuro signs (has had them for a while). our best guess is arthritis in his spine. I could have taken to another province for a full work up but decided against that extra stress. Also, with all the things it could be it didn't seem to alter to plan. He's on a daily dose of previcox which helps a lot. I also saw improvement adding in lysine to his diet. I'm wondering diet since it's appearing in the fall. Is he on pasture? is there some weird plant showing up there?
ReplyDeleteI'm also wondering about Lymes as it can show up in weird and wonderful ways and can come and go.
So weird! Poor Dutch Hippo!! The only thing I can think of is some plant growing at this time of year that he’s eaten out in the pasture? I hope you guys figure something out or the hinge end twisting goes away again and hopefully doesn’t return next year!
ReplyDeleteSince someone just pointed it out in my post yesterday I'll point it out to you, the Johnsongrass is crazy tall right now. It shouldn't be causing issues since it's only really toxic during the first rains after a drought and right after the first frost, but...?
ReplyDeleteugh i hate seeing things like this. tho hopefully it's not actually as bad or scary as it looks? my friend's 2nd level dressage / retired training level event horse came out of the field dragging a front leg the other day. didn't seem to know where it was, and wasn't reactive to flies or anything on it. it was.... really really really unsettling to watch. but by a couple days later she was 100% back to normal - seemed for all the world like a pinched nerve. and she's been normal ever since. hopefully the Hippo is dealing with something similar? maybe some anti inflammatories or something could help??? good luck to your bestie :(
ReplyDeleteOh that is weird! The cyclical nature is really the weirdest part. Does seem neurological in some way, and might be a pinched nerve (a la wobblers). Maybe some particular exercise seems to aggravate it? Or he did some kind of damage to a nerve in a pasture accident that had no other recorded symptoms and the nerve just hasn't healed right? How does he handle other neuro tests?
ReplyDeleteSo has he had the neuro tests (you can look them up and diy it) and if so what did they show? It might be worth calling a vet hospital for a consult over the phone. I talked to several specialists about Stampede years ago and many were willing to chat for free even though I would have willingly paid. Ultimately with an uncooperative vet she may end up having to take him somewhere but at least that gives some ideas ahead of time.
ReplyDeleteI'd certainly want him on an nsaid in case it's inflammation somewhere.
Good luck!
I agree with Kristen and trying for an over-the-phone consult with someone who... is more open to ideas.
ReplyDeleteThat looks exactly like how my friend's horse presents when he has an EPM flareup. I'd at least get him tested. Poor guy, I hope they can figure out what's wrong with him!
ReplyDeleteI feel like if it were epm it wouldn't come and go without treatment. But it could be neurological lyme. Those symptoms can come and go. Giving Doxy especially for only ten days, won't cross the brain/blood barrier. He would need a different med, and usually IV if it's that.
ReplyDeleteIf it's NOT that, I would think along the lines you were with a pinched nerve or arthritis.
I hope she can figure it out, that's so scary :(
She's really brave for riding him when he's doing that with his hind end...I'd be terrified of him falling.
ReplyDeleteEPM and chronic Lyme are both known for alternately causing flare-ups and going into remission. Seasonal changes causes cortisol to rise in horses as their body prepares for winter at this time of year, and that alone can trigger a flare-up of either of these diseases, just like it can make Cushings horses more prone to founder. The easiest way to obtain an answer would be to test for both diseases now while he's having what seems to be a flare-up.
I hope she can find an answer. <3 Neuro diseases are the absolute worst.
Really weird :( Poor Dutch Hippo
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